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		<title>Comment on The Arsenal End-Of-Season Review by The 6000 Day Itch &#124; The Triumvirate</title>
		<link>http://eltriumvirate.co.uk/?p=1715#comment-4123</link>
		<dc:creator>The 6000 Day Itch &#124; The Triumvirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 6000 Day Itch   Posted on March 17, 2013 by admin Roughly a year ago, I wrote a blog entitled ‘Arsenal’s End of Season Review’, bemoaning yet another trophy-less season for the Gunners and suggesting that the blame lay at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 6000 Day Itch   Posted on March 17, 2013 by admin Roughly a year ago, I wrote a blog entitled ‘Arsenal’s End of Season Review’, bemoaning yet another trophy-less season for the Gunners and suggesting that the blame lay at [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ABU Conspiracy by Ap</title>
		<link>http://eltriumvirate.co.uk/?p=2623#comment-3846</link>
		<dc:creator>Ap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 19:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall wenger attackin the ref after losing to chelsea earlier this month, media response.... Target sir alex and ignore yet another wenger ref rant! ... Mancini attacked the ref three times last month, media response, ignore it!... Rafa and pulis both charged the field last month to rant at ref, response, ignore it! ... Joe hart makes mistake after mistake, media? Ignore it and target de gea or another united lad! ... Chelsea and city has benefitted from more dubious decisions then anyone in past two year, what you dint know, that cause media doesnt care unless they can make one up with us! .. The abu&#039;s share one thing in common, their absolutely terrified of the dominate beast that is united and in all honesty, they should be, we&#039;re better then them and they know it, just love it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall wenger attackin the ref after losing to chelsea earlier this month, media response&#8230;. Target sir alex and ignore yet another wenger ref rant! &#8230; Mancini attacked the ref three times last month, media response, ignore it!&#8230; Rafa and pulis both charged the field last month to rant at ref, response, ignore it! &#8230; Joe hart makes mistake after mistake, media? Ignore it and target de gea or another united lad! &#8230; Chelsea and city has benefitted from more dubious decisions then anyone in past two year, what you dint know, that cause media doesnt care unless they can make one up with us! .. The abu&#8217;s share one thing in common, their absolutely terrified of the dominate beast that is united and in all honesty, they should be, we&#8217;re better then them and they know it, just love it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on The ABU Conspiracy by yuvank</title>
		<link>http://eltriumvirate.co.uk/?p=2623#comment-3845</link>
		<dc:creator>yuvank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won,t claim Ferg runs the FA.. but how this perception cropped? n more than based on prejudice strangely many decisions go MANU way , recently the MAN v West Ham , same action one get penalty n one not getting but out of all is Ferg escaping actions from FA for comments worse than other managers yet the other have actions taken against them but Ferg no it still recently we see some pretense for action</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won,t claim Ferg runs the FA.. but how this perception cropped? n more than based on prejudice strangely many decisions go MANU way , recently the MAN v West Ham , same action one get penalty n one not getting but out of all is Ferg escaping actions from FA for comments worse than other managers yet the other have actions taken against them but Ferg no it still recently we see some pretense for action</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Aggregation of Marginal Losses by Mike gunner</title>
		<link>http://eltriumvirate.co.uk/?p=2608#comment-2904</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike gunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So according to Wenger have won 15 trophies. And IVan insisted the gunners will become competitive in 2014 when ffp kicks in.He presumes UEFA will punish errant clubs with huge debts like Chelsea/Barca,ect presuming they are still operating at a loss.The thing is will UEFA have the ball sto punish such branded clubs?
What  if UEFA sanctions are challenged?It&#039;s better not to believe 100% ffp will bite.On another note I read the gunners are linked with another wc Serbian kid.Wenger shd know the first team comes first.Stabilising the senior teamshd be paramount when result s  are of utmost importance. I  know Wenger&#039;s plan with wc kids will deliver in ten years time.The present is more important especially when the gunners are ten points of Chelsea and are struggling for form..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So according to Wenger have won 15 trophies. And IVan insisted the gunners will become competitive in 2014 when ffp kicks in.He presumes UEFA will punish errant clubs with huge debts like Chelsea/Barca,ect presuming they are still operating at a loss.The thing is will UEFA have the ball sto punish such branded clubs?<br />
What  if UEFA sanctions are challenged?It&#8217;s better not to believe 100% ffp will bite.On another note I read the gunners are linked with another wc Serbian kid.Wenger shd know the first team comes first.Stabilising the senior teamshd be paramount when result s  are of utmost importance. I  know Wenger&#8217;s plan with wc kids will deliver in ten years time.The present is more important especially when the gunners are ten points of Chelsea and are struggling for form..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Foreign Owners &#8211; Why Are They Really Here? by The Dirty D-Word &#124; The Triumvirate</title>
		<link>http://eltriumvirate.co.uk/?p=2569#comment-2293</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dirty D-Word &#124; The Triumvirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 21:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The second element here is that not only are United in debt but the value of said debt is to most people an astronomical number beyond comprehension. The value of United’s debt is so huge that even Dr. Evil would hesitate before extending his little finger against the corner of his lips and saying it out loud. The numbers are oft lamented by fans accompanied by much shaking of heads and worried frowns but even the huge numbers involved make financial sense. Again using the example of a buy-to-let property, the value of the loan you receive will depend on how much income the property in question can command. In this regard the size of the loan is relative to United&#8217;s earning power. No one will give you a loan of £1m if the property you want to purchase only receives rent of a few hundred pounds a month but if the property is located in a plush area and rakes in tens of thousands then it’s entirely feasible to obtain such a loan or more.  Apply that logic to Manchester United and you see that the club is a money making machine, it has been for a long time, and it was when the Glazers made their move. To emphasise the point further, United’s (and Liverpool’s) current capacity to get the cash tills ringing is dwarfed by the untapped potential still left in both clubs &#8211; but thats an entire blog in itself (here). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The second element here is that not only are United in debt but the value of said debt is to most people an astronomical number beyond comprehension. The value of United’s debt is so huge that even Dr. Evil would hesitate before extending his little finger against the corner of his lips and saying it out loud. The numbers are oft lamented by fans accompanied by much shaking of heads and worried frowns but even the huge numbers involved make financial sense. Again using the example of a buy-to-let property, the value of the loan you receive will depend on how much income the property in question can command. In this regard the size of the loan is relative to United&#8217;s earning power. No one will give you a loan of £1m if the property you want to purchase only receives rent of a few hundred pounds a month but if the property is located in a plush area and rakes in tens of thousands then it’s entirely feasible to obtain such a loan or more.  Apply that logic to Manchester United and you see that the club is a money making machine, it has been for a long time, and it was when the Glazers made their move. To emphasise the point further, United’s (and Liverpool’s) current capacity to get the cash tills ringing is dwarfed by the untapped potential still left in both clubs &#8211; but thats an entire blog in itself (here). [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Dirty D-Word by Foreign Owners &#8211; Why Are They Really Here? &#124; The Triumvirate</title>
		<link>http://eltriumvirate.co.uk/?p=1660#comment-2236</link>
		<dc:creator>Foreign Owners &#8211; Why Are They Really Here? &#124; The Triumvirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2012 20:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on August 26, 2012 by admin In my article on the debt levels shouldered by Manchester United (here) I alluded to the fact I feel both United and Liverpool could be worth a lot more money that people [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on August 26, 2012 by admin In my article on the debt levels shouldered by Manchester United (here) I alluded to the fact I feel both United and Liverpool could be worth a lot more money that people [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fan Preview Season 2012-13: Newcastle United by J-Co by Foreign Owners &#8211; Why Are They Really Here? &#124; The Triumvirate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foreign Owners &#8211; Why Are They Really Here? &#124; The Triumvirate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2012 18:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on August 26, 2012 by admin In my article on the debt levels shouldered by Manchester United (here) I alluded to the fact I feel both United and Liverpool could be worth a lot more money that people [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on August 26, 2012 by admin In my article on the debt levels shouldered by Manchester United (here) I alluded to the fact I feel both United and Liverpool could be worth a lot more money that people [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Olympic Athletes 0 vs. Premiership Footballers 1 by Tom</title>
		<link>http://eltriumvirate.co.uk/?p=2452#comment-2147</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 10:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a pathetic article. To suggest that a premiership footballer experiences the pressure that Jessica Ennis did is laughable. The Olympics is the largest sporting event in the world and to be &#039;The face&#039; of such an event, the pressure must have been unbelievable. 

Unlike footballers, Athletes don&#039;t earn tens of thousands of pounds a week. Many have to find sponsors themselves or do other jobs as well as train 40+ hours per week (Something footballers don&#039;t do - Many work in the mornings then swan around for the rest of the day).

The lack of interest in football will be noticeable this next season. The usual die hard fans will still be there, the ones who allow their mood and following week to be dictated as to whether their team wins or loses.

This last few weeks has shown what a sad sport football has become in this country. Football should take a good look in the mirror and learn from what we have seen from our true sportsman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pathetic article. To suggest that a premiership footballer experiences the pressure that Jessica Ennis did is laughable. The Olympics is the largest sporting event in the world and to be &#8216;The face&#8217; of such an event, the pressure must have been unbelievable. </p>
<p>Unlike footballers, Athletes don&#8217;t earn tens of thousands of pounds a week. Many have to find sponsors themselves or do other jobs as well as train 40+ hours per week (Something footballers don&#8217;t do &#8211; Many work in the mornings then swan around for the rest of the day).</p>
<p>The lack of interest in football will be noticeable this next season. The usual die hard fans will still be there, the ones who allow their mood and following week to be dictated as to whether their team wins or loses.</p>
<p>This last few weeks has shown what a sad sport football has become in this country. Football should take a good look in the mirror and learn from what we have seen from our true sportsman.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fan Preview Season 2012-13: Everton by Andrew Rogan by Ray</title>
		<link>http://eltriumvirate.co.uk/?p=2499#comment-2128</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 13:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheer up will you.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Olympic Athletes 0 vs. Premiership Footballers 1 by John Swain</title>
		<link>http://eltriumvirate.co.uk/?p=2452#comment-2074</link>
		<dc:creator>John Swain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really poor article David. Did you do any research before writing it or is it just stream of consciousness?

Cheating: You make a good point here, but fail to acknowledge that one of the reasons performance enhancing drugs are not common in the premier league is because, well, they are not really performance enhancing. You might be quicker and stronger than your opponent, but if you can&#039;t play football that doesn&#039;t really matter, and drugs won&#039;t make you hit the ball any better. Rest assured, premier league footballers cheat when it&#039;s to their advantage - diving to the floor to win a penalty, assimilating injury to get a player sent off, handling the ball on the goal-line. I could go on...

Arrogance: You think footballers are worse than athletes? Maybe if you compare the men&#039;s 100m finalists with your standard footballer you have a point. But there are 10,500 athletes at London 2012, and there were only 8 in the 100m final. Listen to the cyclists after they have won their races, you get a different picture, or the rowers, or the horse riders, or long distance runners. Again, I could go on... 

Part-timers: You are right here. The only time anyone cares about athletes is every four years (except, of course, the World Championships, and the European Championships, and maybe the Commonwealth Games, and maybe the Diamond League meetings too, but ignoring them you are right). The problem is, just because we are not interested in the training a rower does, doesn&#039;t mean they are a part-timer. You think a rower can be out with an injury for 6 months and then be back performing at the top level within 4 weeks? No chance. Their training schedules are much more intensive than those of footballers and the difference between success and failure much finer.

You are also right, however, that footballers have to perform week-in, week-out. Except, of course, the two-month break they get every summer (yes, some have to play in international tournaments every two years - maybe 10% of them!). Oh, and let&#039;s not forget that most premier league clubs have a squad of 25, and only 11 play in a match, so for over half of them &quot;performing&quot; means sitting in the stand or on the bench, watching their team-mates &quot;perform&quot;.  And then there are the injuries (no, not the ones they fake to get other players sent off, the real ones), which leave them twiddling their thumbs on the sidelines while they pick up even more money.

You think premier league footballers have more pressure on them than Jessica Ennis? Perhaps, if you are obsessed with the premier league, you might allow yourself to believe that, but in the real world most people don&#039;t know anyone outside the England team. Ennis was plastered all over the country. She was the poster-child for an Olympics that has an estimated global audience of 4.8 billion. 

Soft crowd: Oh, how terrible! Olympic athletes have to play in front of people who respect them, while poor old footballers have to put up with racist taunts and insults to their family. And these football players would never be racist to one another, or insult each others families, or sleep with their brother&#039;s wife, or their teammates girlfriend, or beat up someone for not playing their song in club, or karate-kick a fan, or spit at one another, or head-but each other, or brawl in the tunnel. The crowd mirrors the athlete.

I think you best get back to your fantasy premier league team and leave the rest of us to enjoy some proper sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really poor article David. Did you do any research before writing it or is it just stream of consciousness?</p>
<p>Cheating: You make a good point here, but fail to acknowledge that one of the reasons performance enhancing drugs are not common in the premier league is because, well, they are not really performance enhancing. You might be quicker and stronger than your opponent, but if you can&#8217;t play football that doesn&#8217;t really matter, and drugs won&#8217;t make you hit the ball any better. Rest assured, premier league footballers cheat when it&#8217;s to their advantage &#8211; diving to the floor to win a penalty, assimilating injury to get a player sent off, handling the ball on the goal-line. I could go on&#8230;</p>
<p>Arrogance: You think footballers are worse than athletes? Maybe if you compare the men&#8217;s 100m finalists with your standard footballer you have a point. But there are 10,500 athletes at London 2012, and there were only 8 in the 100m final. Listen to the cyclists after they have won their races, you get a different picture, or the rowers, or the horse riders, or long distance runners. Again, I could go on&#8230; </p>
<p>Part-timers: You are right here. The only time anyone cares about athletes is every four years (except, of course, the World Championships, and the European Championships, and maybe the Commonwealth Games, and maybe the Diamond League meetings too, but ignoring them you are right). The problem is, just because we are not interested in the training a rower does, doesn&#8217;t mean they are a part-timer. You think a rower can be out with an injury for 6 months and then be back performing at the top level within 4 weeks? No chance. Their training schedules are much more intensive than those of footballers and the difference between success and failure much finer.</p>
<p>You are also right, however, that footballers have to perform week-in, week-out. Except, of course, the two-month break they get every summer (yes, some have to play in international tournaments every two years &#8211; maybe 10% of them!). Oh, and let&#8217;s not forget that most premier league clubs have a squad of 25, and only 11 play in a match, so for over half of them &#8220;performing&#8221; means sitting in the stand or on the bench, watching their team-mates &#8220;perform&#8221;.  And then there are the injuries (no, not the ones they fake to get other players sent off, the real ones), which leave them twiddling their thumbs on the sidelines while they pick up even more money.</p>
<p>You think premier league footballers have more pressure on them than Jessica Ennis? Perhaps, if you are obsessed with the premier league, you might allow yourself to believe that, but in the real world most people don&#8217;t know anyone outside the England team. Ennis was plastered all over the country. She was the poster-child for an Olympics that has an estimated global audience of 4.8 billion. </p>
<p>Soft crowd: Oh, how terrible! Olympic athletes have to play in front of people who respect them, while poor old footballers have to put up with racist taunts and insults to their family. And these football players would never be racist to one another, or insult each others families, or sleep with their brother&#8217;s wife, or their teammates girlfriend, or beat up someone for not playing their song in club, or karate-kick a fan, or spit at one another, or head-but each other, or brawl in the tunnel. The crowd mirrors the athlete.</p>
<p>I think you best get back to your fantasy premier league team and leave the rest of us to enjoy some proper sport.</p>
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